Forsdale: A lot of mythology about the moon. Once you set foot on it—

McLuhan: Then what did it bring back?

Forsdale: Can you make the same kind of love under the moon now that somebody has set foot on it?

McLuhan: No, definitely not, it has deglamorized the old moon altogether. It’s deglamorized. What does it bring back that had been pushed out earlier? The ancient world naturally was very much concerned with the wo—the
moon—

Forsdale: And the womb too.